"Passion makes that sometimes some people start to dream that they can make everything by neglecting what must be our unique working foundation: Standard".
Pourquoi un Rassemblement/ Symposium International de Barbets ? Why an International Barbet meeting?


Parce que le Barbet est une race française, malheureusement en voie d’extinction, qui végète depuis de nombreuses années, la Société Central Canine a décidé de nous aider et de tout mettre en œuvre afin d’assurer sa survie car elle fait partie de notre Patrimoine National Canin et elle le vaut bien ! Il s’agit d’en faire l’inventaire et de faire le point sur sa diversité génétique, ainsi que de mettre à plat un standard rédigé en 1891 pour un Barbet d’arrêt.
La SCC a aidé le Chien de Crau et pourquoi pas nous!

In this photo taken in 2009 at the Chien de Crau meeting, you see Mme Pêtre ( Barbochos Reiau de Prouvenco),in the forground and Pr Denis and judge J P Kerihuel in the background assessing and measuring all the dogs.


Because the Barbet is a French breed, doomed to become extinct and which has not managed to develop enough for years, the French Société Centrale Canine has decided to do all they can to help us and help develop the breed and save it from extinction. The Barbet is part of our French Canine Heritage and is worth it! It is about taking stock of the situation and running an inventory and take stock of its genetic diversity along with reviewing a standard written in 891 for a Barbet d’arrêt ( gundog).
The SCC helped the Chien de Crau and why not the Barbet!

La date du rassemblement/ symposium, patronné par la SCC est fixée au 4 août 2012 à Châtel Guyon;
Le jour de la Nationale d'Elevage. La juge est Suisse: Yvonne Jaussi, juge de retrievers. Les horaires seront aménagés afin de ne pas perturber le déroulement du symposium, ni ceux qui se seront déplacés uniquement pour le rassemblement.
(comme en 2005, où nous avons été bousculés par les évènements).

Les visiteurs sont bienvenus

The Barbet meeting/symposium directed by the SCC will be held on the 4th of August 2012 in Châtel Guyon.
It is the day of the Club Specialty show. The judge is Swiss: Yvonne Jaussi, a retriever judge. The schedule of activities will take the symposium into consideration so as NOT to penalize the people who have come only for that reason. (as it was in 2005, where it was difficult to keep up with events happening)

Visitors are welcome.

Concernant l’organisation du rassemblement/ symposium international du Barbet patronné par la Société Centrale Canine:
1. Les clubs étrangers recevront une invitation
2. Tous les éleveurs, et les personnes désirant faire une portée recevront une invitation. Vous êtes priés de venir avec un maximum de chiens représentant votre lignée, votre production, les mâles disponibles pour saillies et femelles reproductrices
3. Les particuliers désireux de soutenir le Barbet devront se manifester afin d'obtenir les infos.
En principe, je vous informerai par le biais de ce site, sachant que tout le monde n'est pas su Facebook.

Concerning the international Barbet meeting/ symposium organized by the French Société Centrale Canine:
1. Foreign clubs will be sent an invitation
2. Breeders with or without a kennel name will receive an invitation. You are asked to come with as many dogs as possible so as to review the production and the different lines and breeding stock: studs and bitches.
3. People interested in the survival of the breed will need to make sure we know who they are, so they can be informed.

I will give you updates so you know what is going on through this site, keeping in mind that not everyone is on Facebook.

Plusieurs membres de la SCC, dont le Président seront invités. Tous les juges français, assesseurs et al également.
Several members of the SCC, including the President will be invited. ALL French BB juges and ones -in -training to become judges, also.

Nous avons:
1. Une database avec tous les chiens inscrits avec leur vraie parenté afin de pouvoir parler de lignées, pour un potentiel plan d'élevage international. ( ex :la SCC ayant demandé au club de race de l'épagneul Pont Audemer de le faire et de leur rendre le "devoir", il y a quelques années)

2. Il y aura, nous espérons, les résultats de l'article du Dr Mimouni sur les hanches de nos chiens. Cependant, nous avions d'ores et déjà le listing consolidé de tous les sites de clubs Barbet qui ont rendu public les résultats.( Rien de nouveau pour l'instant car Dr Mimouni n'a visiblement pas encore écrit l'article qui devait surtout parler du Lagotto)
3. Les calculs en % de mâles utilisés pour la reproduction (env. 2%)
4. Il y aura une session de questions /réponses au sujet de la race.
5. Le standard sera mis à plat et ses points ou les précisions nécessaires discutés et comparé avec les standards des autres races de chiens d’eau, (cahiers des charges). L’objectif est d’éviter des modifications tous les 5 ans et d’impliquer les éleveurs de la race dans les décisions.
6. Comment développer la race ?
As it stands, we have:
1. A database with all the true affiliations listed so that we can discuss bloodlines and the potential of an international breeding plan. The SCC having asked the club where the Pont Audemer Spaniels listed, to prepare a breeding plan, for them, a few years ago)
2. We should have the article and feedback from Dr Mimouni on hipscore. FYI, we had already compiled a list of results taken off all club websites who made them available for the General Public.( The article he was to be writing has not yet been published)
3. We now have also, the % of males available for studding and how many are actually used. (circa 2%)
4. There will be a questions and answers session about the breed.
5. The standard will be reviewed and compared to the specifications ( standards) of the other water dog breeds, to involve the Barbet breeders and to avoid modifications every 5 years.
6. How to develop the breed?

Vous ne serez pas obligés de vous inscrire à la la NE pour faire partie du Rassemblement/ symposium.
You will not be obliged to participate in the Club Specialty to sign up for the Meeting/Symposium.

Pr R Triquet fera défiler tous les chiens présents et décidera lesquels devront être toisés et commentés.
Pr R Triquet will review all the dogs and select the ones who need to be measured or commented.

Il vous sera demandé de préparer vos questions par catégories, pour les différentes personnes présentes, et ce, assez rapidement.( Ce ne sera pas une séance de discussion à bâtons rompus).

You will be asked to prepare questions for the people present, as soon as possible. It will not be a "free-for-all" chat session.

Send all questions to Dr Geissant, VP of Club,( and R Rault)
regrouped by categories.

20/1/12

22/01/12
:http://www.cedia.fr/

You can sign up for Specialty show here
Inscriptions Nationale d'Elevage ( NE) sur Cedia.
Inscriptions NE sont payantes
Vous n'êtes pas obligés de vous inscrire à la NE, pour participer au Symposium qui est gratuit. Il faut cependant s'y inscrire, dès que possible.
http://www.cedia.fr/

If you link to Cedia,scroll down you will see: Symposium
and Nationale d'Elevage
Both are on the same day, so timing will be tight.

The Barbet meeting/ symposium is free.
BUT you must sign up.Also sign up for lunch at the same time ( and or dinner)
All dogs signed up will be reviewed.

The Club Specialty show is not free and you must sign up, also.
It is not an obligation to participate.

I have read there will be a TAN, on Saturday and also on Sunday.

I have heard a doctor veterinary would be there to draw blood from Antagène.

The following day is another show that you can enter that has nothing to do with OUR club. It's a "normal" show.( It's not on Cedia, but on Cynoprint the other site where you sign up for shows.)

Please send your questions to Mrs Rault, that has now changed, but I would put Dr Geissant in copy, as for everything.

As I have said and am repeating, it will not be a free-for-all questions and answers off-the-cuff session. You haver things you want to know and get professionnal responses, this is the time. It's the first time and the last, probably.

People are working for the breed, please don't let the breed down, nor the people behind this. Thanks

29/01/12

It is asked(again) for your questions to be sent to Renée Rault and copy Dr Geissant by the beginning of May as they will be discussed at the committee meeting which will take place in Lustrac.

As I have said before and am repeating myself: questions must be "closed " questions, meaning yes or no answers, and not leading to a an endless debate.
It appears that some have been submitted, but not in the appropraite style.

Please do not wait until the last minute as Dr Geissant is sorting them out and would like to stay on top of things.( he has a job, like many of us!)

For those who still don't believe what is going to happen, please do because this is the last opportunity our club is giving us and rightly so. From the SCC down to the club, this is it: our last chance to work together for the breed that is not going to go anywhere if we are not worthy of cooperating on even as little as this type of information..

All will be done for it to go well and hopefully save our breed. That is the reason why the SCC has accepted to help us

Les questions que vous avez au sujet de la race, de l'élevage etc, sont à envoyer à la Pdte du club et bien mettre Dr Geissant, le VP, en copie. Les questions seront traitées ( pas discutées) et mises en ordre de marche pour le Power point que prépare Dr Geissant afin d'obtenir les réponses cet été.

Your questions are to be sent by mid May to the Pdt of the club, copy to Dr Geissant, the VP. There will be a committeee meeting in Lustrac, at the Regional Specialty show.
He is going to be putting together a Powerpoint presentation and all the questions will be put in order and not "discussed", but sorted.
We know they can't discuss them.

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Updated 26/03/2012