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A,B,C: Vieux Barbet Français

H: history
K: for George Orwell and the Old Barbet!
M: measure
S: standard
A: Authentic Barbet or Vieux Barbet Français
B: Barbet Moderne, son histoire depuis 1980
B: Breeding, studs and the likes!
B: blogs to keep up with
B:Bibliography and links
Barbet heads, eyes and noses?
Barbets and other water dogs...
Barbets en Bresse, France
Breeding rules: FCI
C: conversion table
C:Crossbreeding R Triquet
Color genetics
Diversité génétique d'une race rare
E: Education
F: FAULTS according to the standard
F:Facts and fallacies about the Barbet
G: Georgy spiritual father of the Barbet
G: Griffon Barbet
H: Health matters
H: Hipscore Dysplasia
H: history Barbet Moderne
Health reference websites: hips etc
I: Inbreeding
K: Kennel blindness
L: Lexicologie Barbet
L: letter from the President of the SCC as proof-preuve
L:LOF Barbets since the beginning
M: breeders' meeting 2009
P: Poodle History Project
P: Poodle history
P: Purest
P: poodle health registry
P:Pedigree databases updated 5/11
P:Photos to depict the standard
Psychological warfare or breed rape? 0411
R: Rare or nearly extinct breeds
Radio des hanches: ce qu'il faut faire avec la radio officielle 3/11
Rassemblement: Meeting Barbets 2012 French& English
S: Shopping!
S: Study of our pedigrees- Spanish Water Dog
S: study of our pedigrees - Poodles
S: study of our pedigrees- Portuguese water dogs
S:Selection grid/Grille de Sélection
old club site


Old Lines and new crosses

Barbet x Irish Water Spaniel
Barbet/ Irish Water Spaniel
Barbonus: line 4 fawn
Bloodline 1: Le Houelleur (de Floirac)
History, shepherds and Barbets
In French, on Pronatura: 3 bloodlines
Portuguese water dog and pedigree database
Spanish Water Dog line and pedigree database
Wycliffe and the Barbet modern: poodle database
bb x swd


Videos Galore

A pup of Colleen's in Scandinavia
B: Barbets live and in colors!
Caya and the ocean
Disco and Rocket
Eho Santiano in the Netherlands
Flashdance and her mirabelle de Savoie...
From Cressat, France
Le Barbet au CGA 2011
My 3 males together
Plum picker uppers!
Yatzie and my girls!


Working Barbets

Barbet de chasse: Malher
Bibiche di Barbochos de Reiau de Prouvenco
Booly Wooly
Crotté comme un Barbet: Lucrezia Borgia
Détails du BTE/BCE
Le travail à l'eau
My Barbets at work: a sampling
Mère et fils: duck duo!
Poppenspaler's Vincacao
Thelma de la perte aux loups
UK: Hunting training by Fiona Lucas
Un carnet de travail: pour obtenir le BCE



A Barbet Moderne cut: Molly Mae
Before and after: Thelma and Coccolina 2012
Grooming Tools
The Barboch cut with photos: a working cut


Toutes les nouvelles

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Parti Poodle problems envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 25/04/2010 @ 06:41
Good Sunday morning, ladies and gentlemen.

Have breakfast before you go to this site. What you will see is very very sad.

Again, these are PARTI POODLES and I am not, by any stretch of the imagination, casting any stones at this poor person. These dogs look a lot like many Barbets we see on a daily basis on various sites around the world of Barbet and for someone who doesn't really care about the "label":

"Barbet, rare breed" let's have one to help in the survival of the breed speeech" and can help save these creatures...they may need it more at this point than the "Barbet".
Thank you.

My 2 cents: Problems on the horizon envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 23/04/2010 @ 06:40
It would appear that more and more questions are being asked about the character of a Barbet and its working ability...

A Barbet is a nice friendly dog. Friendly to people, friendly to other dogs and a dog who likes to play.They are not barkers, nor should they be aggressive.
It has or should have the natural instinct to work...
Work doesn't only mean bringing back/ retrieving ducks...

I try to show you as often as possible how they are, characterwise, by filming them. Then you can really see how they are in "real life". The film done in February is for real and not just set up for "show".
Those are 2 males playing together!!!!!!!The others are together, not separated as I have seen in some homes in the past.

Then, working ability, "natural" instinct , what do they mean?
They mean they (also) do what they were originally created for.
The standard in 1894 was written for a gun dog that pointed and could flush feathered creatures in thick shrub and who loved water. That now is only destined for a rare exception, BUT the Barbet still has a working character in some lines. People who "work" with them see the difference in different bloodlines.
Remember that work is not just hunting. It all ties in....Like the head being coneected to the neck.

I have recently been asked to use one of my males to add some "working blood" into a line that has none, but the name Barbet in it.
Behaviour problems are not uncommon, alas. Back in 2005 the ex-President of the French club warned "breeders" about this as he had seen several dog fights at the Specialty show. Of course, this is being kept hushhush, but it's not recent. I have myself witnessed a bitch who tried to bite a judge at a show, who had just put his hand out. Well those dogs reproduce for a low % of inbreeding, not for selection.
In 2000, when I picked up my Molly from the breeder, I tried to touch her mother who growled at I backed off, but was quite taken aback by the situation.The breeder laughed it off. I thought it was strange.

I am told people can see the difference in my dogs. I'm talking about my dogs because they're mine and not saying that some others don't have that ability or those character traits. BUT for sure, some don't.

This also has to do with breeding and selection,however when selection doesn't go past % on a pedigree with wrong information, then we know we're in trouble. So, yes, I refuse matings and I know why and I don't feel I have to justify anything. BUT maybe the time has come to lift another veil?

Some "breeders" aren’t bad, they just aren’t good. They know nothing about the bloodlines, because they have no information.They don't want it and don't even try o look for it. They breed by the seat of their pants or by heresay.

I want to support true responsible breeders, that are not looking at the value of the pup not in terms of money or refreshing poodle blood, but common sense, and long term viability of the breed and the "old bloodlines".
The fact that only 3 dogs(1 being Polish) have passed a character test in Switzerland is scary when you think of the tight ship they run.

whazzap? Wasa.. envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 22/04/2010 @ 21:29

Wasa crackers as they are called in France, are still enjoyed by the 2 pups left ...everyoen gets their bit.

Fanny Forigoler and Frankly Scarlet... envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 20/04/2010 @ 14:31

Contemporary of Jean Baptiste Oudry: 1758 envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 20/04/2010 @ 12:43

The head was painted as if it were a human, it could be a Poodle but certainly doesn't look it.It was done by a French artist.Then,
Coccolina, Compay II and her son Fleetwood Mac

Similar looks but not the same! Look closer envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 20/04/2010 @ 10:55

A Barbet pup at about 8 weeks and a Parti Poodle, much finer nose, at 7 weeks, in New Zealand. Similar coloring, despite the fact that the Parti Poodle has no SWD ( chien d'eau espagnol) in it as some Barbets do.

The Barbet is not a poodle, you can see the difference here and it is important to be able to show differences between the breeds.
I'd like to get the same photo of a Spanish Water dog in the same position at about the same age...if anyone knows of one? I'd appreciate it a lot.
These types of photos need to be taken regularly to show how they develop to not looking alike "morphologically". Then, when they grow, a lot of the morphology is hidden under the coat! Then, you need to see how it grows and the tail set ( Poodle vs Barbet) often hidden in photos.

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