I am appalled at the quantity of people who have barbets in certain countries, who are thinking of breeding them and who have no clue as to how wrong most of the pedigrees are. It's when you want to breed and the club in the country says, "oh, sorry, the inbreeding is too high, so no go.You need to mate with this line.."(which is generally mostly pure poodle)...
Then one wonders why there are not more breeders? Especially in France, land of origin of the Barbet?
It is very difficuly to survive with what goes on. Many have tried, but rapidly get discouraged by all the bssss.
This site below is very important for many reasons. Here the "french club" points the fingers to several breeds being in the Barbet, but just enuendos, not facts.This is not what one would expect on a general public website.
Doesn't mention that some of these dogs do
have Barbet blood.
Doesn't mention where these dogs are. Only says they are "there". Well, lets' take it the full monty, guys.Spill the beans, get it out in the open which is what many have been asking for!http://www.chiens-online.com/race-barbet-fiche-100.html
Let me give you an example:
This is Compay's official pedigree, below.*http://www.pawpeds.com/db/?a=p&id=783805&g=5&p=bar&date=iso&o=ajgrep
Now below again, is Compay's real pedigree as found on a website by hazard just after he was born, assembled by our now elected responsible for the breed...without ever saying anything to me about it.This was done to "tell the truth", but what was the objective? damage MY breeding? vengeance...?
Now, Imagine that I
didn't know this...
Imagine people who have dogs from me seeing this without knowing( let's say, I hadn't told them which I did because I believe we can only work properly with all the cards in our hands and not half a deck as some try to do).
I would be considered as a liar and selling false pedigree'd dogs/ so "mutts". Isn't that punishable in a court of law?
Luckily, I have always told my people what was in the pedigrees in complete honesty and what MY objective with a few other breeders, was.
Can you imagine?
Well, it is an eye opener, and that's why I'm screaming regularly.Barking up trees, I guess. But eventually, some will hear me.
I'll give you another example...
Colleen, Compay's sister. Appropriate; same pedigree.
She has been blacklisted by the Swedish Barbet club for her upcoming litter which comes in at 10.3% or so with Luddelump's Elvis who has barbet blood, also just as she does, but that is not good enough. Sooooooooo, the Swedish kennel club says, no can do because the "official" pedigree SCC regsitered says 10.3.
Barbet club is probably quite happy to not list her.
Working for the breed, they are.
Now, we all know that the pedigree is wrong, but that is not their problem, just like what goes on is not the SCC's problem because the Club( French club ) is responsible for what is going on..
.AND there is an underground database circulating to "some".
Just like most of the information...with absolutely no transparency at all.
How wrong is Colleen's pedigree? The real inbreeding is 3.12%...!
That is how you destroy a breed and its future when you actively work on it.
How can we work with people when how many are lying? Let me reformulate: how many are telling the truth? Hard to say because they get exterminated very rapidly.
How can there be a selection process to continue a rare breed that someoen the other day said to me after seeing 2 in the showring:
"Are they the same breed"?
So now the real info:
Below is Escribania de Ubrique
, found in the barbet database.Why in the Barbet database, you ask? Only if you know she's there can you find her....more insider trading.Of course it's not hidden, but you'd have to really know what to look for or get it first hand.http://www.pawpeds.com/db/?a=p&id=792306&g=4&p=bar&date=iso&o=ajgrep
Escribania de Ubrique
Poppenspaler's Vincacao and his daughter Brandy/ Rainette, result of his mating with a SWD( Escribania).And you know who she belonged to.So you mate her litter( which will be 1/2 some Barbet blood and 1/2 phenotype SWD and what have you..) to poodles with no Barbet blood and call them Barbets. right.Sue me beacuse I'm trying to move forward and get out of this mess?
And there's more where that came from. And I am not going to mince words, while others are playing little power games.Transparency?
Do some even know what the word means?
That's why I have a difficult time being purely factual about some things.I live this discrimination every day.
Now, lets' see how the new responsible for the Barbet at the French club sorts this mess out or?
* and a bimbette announces that his color is within standard. my gawd. what next.