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A,B,C: Vieux Barbet Français

H: history
K: for George Orwell and the Old Barbet!
M: measure
S: standard
A: Authentic Barbet or Vieux Barbet Français
B: Barbet Moderne, son histoire depuis 1980
B: Breeding, studs and the likes!
B: blogs to keep up with
B:Bibliography and links
Barbet heads, eyes and noses?
Barbets and other water dogs...
Barbets en Bresse, France
Breeding rules: FCI
C: conversion table
C:Crossbreeding R Triquet
Color genetics
Diversité génétique d'une race rare
E: Education
F: FAULTS according to the standard
F:Facts and fallacies about the Barbet
G: Georgy spiritual father of the Barbet
G: Griffon Barbet
H: Health matters
H: Hipscore Dysplasia
H: history Barbet Moderne
Health reference websites: hips etc
I: Inbreeding
K: Kennel blindness
L: Lexicologie Barbet
L: letter from the President of the SCC as proof-preuve
L:LOF Barbets since the beginning
M: breeders' meeting 2009
P: Poodle History Project
P: Poodle history
P: Purest
P: poodle health registry
P:Pedigree databases updated 5/11
P:Photos to depict the standard
Psychological warfare or breed rape? 0411
R: Rare or nearly extinct breeds
Radio des hanches: ce qu'il faut faire avec la radio officielle 3/11
Rassemblement: Meeting Barbets 2012 French& English
S: Shopping!
S: Study of our pedigrees- Spanish Water Dog
S: study of our pedigrees - Poodles
S: study of our pedigrees- Portuguese water dogs
S:Selection grid/Grille de Sélection
old club site


Old Lines and new crosses

Barbet x Irish Water Spaniel
Barbet/ Irish Water Spaniel
Barbonus: line 4 fawn
Bloodline 1: Le Houelleur (de Floirac)
History, shepherds and Barbets
In French, on Pronatura: 3 bloodlines
Portuguese water dog and pedigree database
Spanish Water Dog line and pedigree database
Wycliffe and the Barbet modern: poodle database
bb x swd


Videos Galore

A pup of Colleen's in Scandinavia
B: Barbets live and in colors!
Caya and the ocean
Disco and Rocket
Eho Santiano in the Netherlands
Flashdance and her mirabelle de Savoie...
From Cressat, France
Le Barbet au CGA 2011
My 3 males together
Plum picker uppers!
Yatzie and my girls!


Working Barbets

Barbet de chasse: Malher
Bibiche di Barbochos de Reiau de Prouvenco
Booly Wooly
Crotté comme un Barbet: Lucrezia Borgia
Détails du BTE/BCE
Le travail à l'eau
My Barbets at work: a sampling
Mère et fils: duck duo!
Poppenspaler's Vincacao
Thelma de la perte aux loups
UK: Hunting training by Fiona Lucas
Un carnet de travail: pour obtenir le BCE



A Barbet Moderne cut: Molly Mae
Before and after: Thelma and Coccolina 2012
Grooming Tools
The Barboch cut with photos: a working cut


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Compay in Paris: of course I am proud! envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 16/06/2009 @ 20:42

I thought for sure that our results wouldn't be as good as they were...
Yes, I was happy. Had it not been to do some P.R. for the Barbet and attend the AGM, I wouldn't have gone at all.I was happy to get my "slip"!You can see that. I have since, been accused of being a bad loser..all this by email, as usual.

Fair play? Always..after all, that's life, and "tomorrow is another day".No one has never heard me complain even though there are judges I stay away from when possible. Like everyone...

I hope you enjoy these photos of him Compay as much as I do every day, along with all of my other Barbets. He did well, yes. I don't have much to do with it. I thank Coccolina and Ungaro who both produced a hell of a nice and healthy litter.

Compay will be 2 in a few days, so he has time...for everything.

He naturally stands that way, straight back and all.

Thank you Catherine for having captured us, just the way we are and sending me these fabulous photos. Some of the best I have ever had.

Tele Loisirs: what it says envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 16/06/2009 @ 08:36

In the red rectangle, according to A Varlet, (a high official at the SCC) it says and I quote: "while some breeds are being created, others are dying. It's the case of the Barbet, a sort of big poodle that used to be used for waterfowl. It slept in the stable because if the coat was wet and took 3 hours to dry, no one was having to put up with the smell of wet dog. Today, the labrador has taken over, can swim, short coat and dry before he gets home", says our specialist
Meaning that the extinction of a breed can be due to its coat( according to the conclusion of the journalist, no scoop)...the coat that some believe is of course much more important that any bloodlines.
( SO: mix a poodle and a Spanish water dog and say that the coat is magnificent, so if the coat is magnificently toghtly curled, it can only be a Barbet. That is how the Barbet is being destroyed.)

When you read this, you wonder what the SCC is doing to defend our French breed. They delegate a competent club with competent people to deal with that.

And if you take that thought one further and have a look at the French Barbet( et al) club website, and have a look at the statutes( of course not on the website, you never know, one might want to read them), then you wonder what they're doing to defend our French breed and of course with what competences?

And if you really ponder the next thought, you will see that the breeders who were ( and still are, through his legacy) led by the re-incarnator of the breed in the 80's have been around are grossly misinforming all of us by digging the hole even deeper to bury the Barbet.

Their debate being that the coat must be curly like a poodle, which is why people are not interested...catch my drift.
Which is what A Varlet said....not pointing his finger at us but describing for the layman what a Barbet looked like as opposed to a Pointer! Because people are of course, going to start saying things that were not said and misinterpreting them. I was there and I asked him.

...even though I said it too. But who am I? He never mentionned the coat to me or what it should or shouldn't be. He only said if everyone was fighting which they are and I told him, the breed is condemned and gave the examples of the St Usuge and the Corsican dog where people were working together..

That's what the SCC is saying. So they are going against what the SCC is saying because there are too many chiefs and no indians and no one bothers with history or facts, and since no one at the club in France has a clue of what to do, welllllllll...that's the result.(I won't even get into what is going on in the rest of the Barbet world, yet).

The rest of the article uses the Berger de Savoie as an example of people fighting...( which I know is not really true) as an excuse to not help them.

The French Barbet club, since 1982 or so, when it was founded has a long tradition of "disciplinary councils" to shut people up and eliminate them and fighting, criticizing, attacking, that is still perpetrated to this day.

M Trioptin had asked the buro/ committee for a disciplinary council against me( for slander), because I asked him in a private email what he was doing to support M Georgii, who was 100% against adding poodle to his line and never did, AND even if he did some redipping which is perfectly fine and normal for a breeder ( a competent one, of course), all of this has gone to pot because the logic was not followed and now another breed has been created if you just look at the photos in the posts below. Now that ought to bring me more wrath.

And there's more where that came from.

Luckily, there are some of us across the world uniting to "save the old Barbet bloodlines". That is what I was told. Show a united front and it doesn't even have to be with French breeders, is what he told me.

And DNA will help us. That is going to be a requirement very soon at the will be on the pedigrees. YES.

Page courtesy of Tele-Loisirs.

Enjoy these photos from the Netherlands envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 15/06/2009 @ 21:39

On a very positive note: Paris 2009 envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 14/06/2009 @ 18:43
The road was clear in the was sunny. We got into the parking lot rather easily with people directing us up the way to empty spaces.
The rings were nicely set up, there was not poop all over the floor, the bathrooms were clean and we didn't have to wait in line. There was grass outside and we saw quite a few people picking up their dogs' poops.There's of course nothing you can do about the noise level...
It was relaxing to be able outside in the sun. The judges were on time.
What more can you ask for! The drive home was nice as the road was clear and we came home to the dogs it was still daylight and they were ever so happy to see us and so were we!

Thank you the SCC!

A head of Barbet: Paris 2009 envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 14/06/2009 @ 10:20

Some rare photos of Arkann (who is Coccolina's sister, so Compay's aunt)taken in Paris yesterday. Why rare?
Usually, she is running in the country and retrieving ducks.

Arkann is the only Barbet in France to have the BICP 1st category, which is the highest honor a Barbet can have when hunting... This female reallycan hunt and retrieve. Her mistress is not a hunter but did the hunting trials for the breed and not to access working class for dog shows.
She rarely attends dog shows...but yesterday was absolutely fantastic and I am delighted to say that she came in 2nd out of 4 females. I'm sure her owner will be telling all of us more about it on her website along with the usual magnificent photos she shares with us.

Also, please have a look at the color of her coat and its texture which has nothing to do with many browns that fade or look kinky which is not the way a Barbet coat should be.
She is 4 years old and she definitely has the Griffon Barbet/ Boulet coat, wooly and curly.

A Swiss judge in Paris: and the winner is.... envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 14/06/2009 @ 09:12
Not Compay!*

My French water dog was sollicited right, left and center as spitting double to President Obama's water dog.

Difference between the 2: the French water dog was a gun dog (some still are, genetically) and the Portuguese water dog has never been a gun dog. Then, under all that hair there's probably more but of not interest to the layman, except for the character which is different.

AND if I may add: the Portie is not anywhere near extinction, even if it is not a popular breed in France.

* I will let the owner do one's own publicity.

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