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A: Authentic Barbet or Vieux Barbet Français
B: Barbet Moderne, son histoire depuis 1980
B: Breeding, studs and the likes!
B: blogs to keep up with
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Barbet heads, eyes and noses?
Barbets and other water dogs...
Barbets en Bresse, France
Breeding rules: FCI
C: COAT COLORS
C: conversion table
C:Crossbreeding R Triquet
Color genetics
Diversité génétique d'une race rare
E: Education
F: FAULTS according to the standard
F:Facts and fallacies about the Barbet
G: Georgy spiritual father of the Barbet
G: Griffon Barbet
H: Health matters
H: Hipscore Dysplasia
H: history Barbet Moderne
Health reference websites: hips etc
I: Inbreeding
K: Kennel blindness
L: LOF
L: Lexicologie Barbet
L: letter from the President of the SCC as proof-preuve
L:LOF Barbets since the beginning
M: breeders' meeting 2009
P: Poodle History Project
P: Poodle history
P: Purest
P: poodle health registry
P:Pedigree databases updated 5/11
P:Photos to depict the standard
Psychological warfare or breed rape? 0411
R: Rare or nearly extinct breeds
Radio des hanches: ce qu'il faut faire avec la radio officielle 3/11
Rassemblement: Meeting Barbets 2012 French& English
S: Shopping!
S: Study of our pedigrees- Spanish Water Dog
S: study of our pedigrees - Poodles
S: study of our pedigrees- Portuguese water dogs
S:Selection grid/Grille de Sélection
old club site

 



Old Lines and new crosses

Barbet x Irish Water Spaniel
Barbet/ Irish Water Spaniel
Barbonus: line 4 fawn
Bloodline 1: Le Houelleur (de Floirac)
History, shepherds and Barbets
In French, on Pronatura: 3 bloodlines
Portuguese water dog and pedigree database
Spanish Water Dog line and pedigree database
Wycliffe and the Barbet modern: poodle database
bb x swd

 



Videos Galore

A pup of Colleen's in Scandinavia
B: Barbets live and in colors!
Caya and the ocean
Disco and Rocket
Eho Santiano in the Netherlands
Flashdance and her mirabelle de Savoie...
From Cressat, France
Le Barbet au CGA 2011
My 3 males together
Plum picker uppers!
Yatzie and my girls!

 



Working Barbets

Barbet de chasse: Malher
Bibiche di Barbochos de Reiau de Prouvenco
Booly Wooly
Crotté comme un Barbet: Lucrezia Borgia
Détails du BTE/BCE
Le travail à l'eau
My Barbets at work: a sampling
Mère et fils: duck duo!
Poppenspaler's Vincacao
Thelma de la perte aux loups
UK: Hunting training by Fiona Lucas
Un carnet de travail: pour obtenir le BCE

 



Grooming/Toilettage

A Barbet Moderne cut: Molly Mae
Before and after: Thelma and Coccolina 2012
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The Barboch cut with photos: a working cut

 

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Not Eureka, but close. envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 12/04/2009 @ 08:44
As one would when constructing or (reconstructing) a puzzle when you have no clue to how many pieces you have, I have been looking for some to fit in without knowing what size they were or how they would fit. It’s uphill all the way.

Needless to say, since about the very early 90's ( latish 80's), some people have that info but are not willing to give any indications of anything concerning the Barbet Français and how the poodle x poodle crosses took over not slowly but surely, but basically overnight.
At that point, anyone who had been breeding Barbets in the purest tradition were simply cast aside...cast being a "nice" word. They were dumped would be more appropriate.

The name "Mme Pêtre" brought ire to most who had rediscovered the wheel, meaning the Barbet, as it still does, to this date.

Overnight, their Barbets with Barbet blood had all become bastards. Just like that.And of course, they were all sick dogs who carried all diseases under the sun.

The breeders who had any connection with Barbets and Mrs Pêtre were forced to stop as the pdt of the official French club refused to confirm the dogs and from getting CACIBs or CACS’ and at shows the Barbets started getting “good” or “insufficiant”.
Some of these people were real breeders (as opposed to amateurs who had a job) and they were forced out of the breed.
This was in the 80’s. I am not referring to the ones who started in the 90’s and elbowed their way up. Many breeders from the 90’s gave up also because of all the fighting and back-stabbing.( survival of the fittest? Might makes right?... 10th grade world history concepts that apply to any environment).

It makes me laugh when I see here and there written, that there are so few breeders left in France and we need more...
There were more...and good breeders are not a dime a dozen.
It is a huge investment of time and money. Working with a rare breed as I have often said is not a question of inbreeding percentages, but making dogs that look like the standard says.That is the rewarding part. It's not a question of "bucks".

We’re almost 30 years later and I know why many don’t want me to be doing what I am doing. There’s a lot at stake.

Yes, there is a lot at stake....

Thanks to some people who pop up every so often ( more and more recently), I am able to find more pieces of the puzzle. Some of these people are interested in the breed, and how it needs to survive. Some are French, one who recently send me a goldmine of information is German.These people don't even have a Barbet.

The Griffon Boulet is extinct so is the Braque Dupuy, and several other French breeds.Time is ticking.
This all happened whilst many stood on the sidelines saying, “what a shame, they let the breed die”. Don’t know who the “they” is...

So, as one can imagine: I don’t have a whole lot of friends in the Barbet world, but I do have enough and I have the ones I need to help.
And.... I have my dogs as proof of the past and present.

Here is a piece of a Treasure I have just received.



This Barbet was born in 1989. His pedigree is false. It has to be. Like many others...but when you see the picture of whole dog, you will immediately know his origins and that.... “my dear Watson”, is how you should be able to pick out a real Barbet from a crowd. That’s called tracability.

Happy Easter.

Births coming up in the Netherlands.. envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 11/04/2009 @ 09:40
Compay II is going to be a daddy...

For info:

http://www.vonderleibrucke.nl/

Poppenspälers' Cassis' pups in Finland envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 11/04/2009 @ 07:47



Once, they're born..........they grow so fast, it will make your head spin!

ritva.wikman@luukku.com

Tel: 00 35 84 07 51 63 22; she speaks English, too!

Breeding Commission: French club...playing dead envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 10/04/2009 @ 16:50


You may have been sollicitted to send blood samples to Finland (which is absolutely illegal from France) for some type of genetic study.

The name of the genetician involved has not been revealed, neither.
To my knowledge, no French vet has ever been consulted by the club, officially.

This type of activity is in the hands of the Responsible for the Barbet and head of the breeding commission (CTE) at the French Club in France: Maurice Tripotin to take act upon.



For your information, I have just asked him to do something about the CTE set up in 2007 and that has never had a meeting, nor do we even know who the other members are, or at least 2 of us don't know. The Dutch person does not even breed Barbets.... Who the foreigners are? Dunno.

That was one of the items in the registered letter I sent him and that has been in his hands for 2 days. I have asked him to take action.

As far as I know, there is no international association or organisation taking on any kind of responsability, nor has it been given any by the club, the French one. As usual, this is a private initiative and not all breeders are contacted, nor are some even aware of this. This is to compensate for some's inactivity or incompetence. The document is the same one sent out by the French club for which the results were sent to the University of Rennes france, so it is said.

Lights, cameras rolling....action! envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 05/04/2009 @ 11:18

I wannabe a movie star, too! Colleen in the north of Sweden.

I'd like to add a thought to ponder... envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 05/04/2009 @ 09:47
When working with a rare breed, you must keep in mind that it is not just a question of having a "rare" dog to show your friends.

The Barbet français is a very endangered species, and we need people who are wanting to get involved in saving it and making sure we can get back to what it looked like and is supposed to look like. That's why there are standards. Just like the "hypertypes", which is the problem that exploded Crufts recently, it is breeders who make or break a breed by what they do to it or say about it.

Then, it is judges who reward these dogs for whatever reasons they do it for. Some help deviate the breed completely by their absolute lack of knowledge of the standard. There are more than you can imagine.

As far as the Barbet is concerned:
The gene pool is wide yes,because there have been many "mixes". Some positive for the breed, some negative. Many of us are working towards keeping the old type alive. That means that you get a dog that has a given ancestry. That ancestry has a name on its head. It can be traced back, with occasionally a touch of this or that. Those dogs had qualities and characteristics.

To get back to those treasures it involves some inbreeding and whatever necessary to set those types. It takes experience that not all of us have, again for lack of knowledge.
By no means, is it a simple question of crossing lines and how much inbreeding percentages are involved on paper... If it were that easy, there would be more breeders and there would be thousands of births every year.



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Studs/ Etalons

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