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Vieux Barbet News







A,B,C: Vieux Barbet Français

H: history
K: for George Orwell and the Old Barbet!
M: measure
S: standard
A: Authentic Barbet or Vieux Barbet Français
B: Barbet Moderne, son histoire depuis 1980
B: Breeding, studs and the likes!
B: blogs to keep up with
B:Bibliography and links
Barbet heads, eyes and noses?
Barbets and other water dogs...
Barbets en Bresse, France
Breeding rules: FCI
C: conversion table
C:Crossbreeding R Triquet
Color genetics
Diversité génétique d'une race rare
E: Education
F: FAULTS according to the standard
F:Facts and fallacies about the Barbet
G: Georgy spiritual father of the Barbet
G: Griffon Barbet
H: Health matters
H: Hipscore Dysplasia
H: history Barbet Moderne
Health reference websites: hips etc
I: Inbreeding
K: Kennel blindness
L: Lexicologie Barbet
L: letter from the President of the SCC as proof-preuve
L:LOF Barbets since the beginning
M: breeders' meeting 2009
P: Poodle History Project
P: Poodle history
P: Purest
P: poodle health registry
P:Pedigree databases updated 5/11
P:Photos to depict the standard
Psychological warfare or breed rape? 0411
R: Rare or nearly extinct breeds
Radio des hanches: ce qu'il faut faire avec la radio officielle 3/11
Rassemblement: Meeting Barbets 2012 French& English
S: Shopping!
S: Study of our pedigrees- Spanish Water Dog
S: study of our pedigrees - Poodles
S: study of our pedigrees- Portuguese water dogs
S:Selection grid/Grille de Sélection
old club site


Old Lines and new crosses

Barbet x Irish Water Spaniel
Barbet/ Irish Water Spaniel
Barbonus: line 4 fawn
Bloodline 1: Le Houelleur (de Floirac)
History, shepherds and Barbets
In French, on Pronatura: 3 bloodlines
Portuguese water dog and pedigree database
Spanish Water Dog line and pedigree database
Wycliffe and the Barbet modern: poodle database
bb x swd


Videos Galore

A pup of Colleen's in Scandinavia
B: Barbets live and in colors!
Caya and the ocean
Disco and Rocket
Eho Santiano in the Netherlands
Flashdance and her mirabelle de Savoie...
From Cressat, France
Le Barbet au CGA 2011
My 3 males together
Plum picker uppers!
Yatzie and my girls!


Working Barbets

Barbet de chasse: Malher
Bibiche di Barbochos de Reiau de Prouvenco
Booly Wooly
Crotté comme un Barbet: Lucrezia Borgia
Détails du BTE/BCE
Le travail à l'eau
My Barbets at work: a sampling
Mère et fils: duck duo!
Poppenspaler's Vincacao
Thelma de la perte aux loups
UK: Hunting training by Fiona Lucas
Un carnet de travail: pour obtenir le BCE



A Barbet Moderne cut: Molly Mae
Before and after: Thelma and Coccolina 2012
Grooming Tools
The Barboch cut with photos: a working cut


Toutes les nouvelles

Poster une nouvelle


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May 2009 be the year of the Barbet français? He needs it. envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 31/12/2008 @ 09:39
A fond thought for Rasta on this last day of the year, who was found and confirmed as a fabulous specimen of Barbet français, ATI. When I found out about him, I jumped in my car. He did not make it to sire, as he was hit by a car. He had it all.

May 2009 be the year of the Barbet? Time is ticking. I know the Barbet will outlive us, that has been proven....but that's not the point.

Honor to Ketty: the Griffon Boulet envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 31/12/2008 @ 09:31

She is 18. She was found. Compare with Bounty in the photo below. She looks like a Boulet, had we known about her before...What a shame. She is a beautiful dog. Happy New year, Ketty and mom.

Yes, you can still find here and there, some rare species...

May 2009 be the year of the Barbet? Time is ticking. I knwo the Barbet will outlive us, that has been proven....but that's not the point.

Griffons: Boulet, Barbet history for the Anglo-Saxons and the Dutch! envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 31/12/2008 @ 08:29
As many of you know, I am and have been working on the history of the Barbet français. It can only be done in France...
Many have received the photos of the 3 bloodlines.
A picutre being a 1000 words, it is easier to look at them and see for yourself. No indoctrination of words. Facts.

This link was found for me as I am sorry, I cannot translate everything that is happening as far as the (real) history of the Barbet into English. I need to finish it in French, first.

The information on these sites is similar to some of the information I have found in French. That is important as the same information is being given. If you don't understand you can look at the photos!
Some people are absolutely not interested in its history and that is one of the problems that we have today, not only in France but in several countries, now, since the Barbet is gaining popularity.

Don't ask me which one, ask them. Why it is gaining popularity? One reason could be because it is a rare breed, so for that reason alone...
BUT,that is not a good reason to have a Barbet. It happens.Of course.

This should give you an idea of what is going on with the history of the Barbet and how the poodle and the Barbet are not the same breeds.
The poodle was selected out of the Barbet to not look like a Barbet, nor be groomed like it.
The information I have about the Barbet rarely mentions poodles, as a matter of fact, as it is a different breed. It generally speaks of Griffons.

That is the reason why there are 2 standards.

When you are looking at pedigrees, go all the way. Don't stop on one piece of paper...The information is there available to you now, by people who make it available to you, on databases.

In a breed,in all breeds we talk about bloodlines.
So, it should not come as a surprise that if 2 mutts are mated, their product is: more mutts.
If you add a pseudo poodle onto it, it is still a mutt, poodle typed.
If you put a poodle (a real one as is the case in some "Barbets") it is still a poodle, but renamed.It still has poodle blood.

They didn't take the dog and give him a blood transfusion.

Their characteristics (phenotype and genotype)are you you decide to acquire a particular type of dog against another.

The clubs and the breeders are responsible for anything that happens in good or bad to a breed, to the breed they are responsible for.

If the breeders deviate from what the dog is supposed to look like, eventually (qui est un faux ami avec éventuellement) they make a completely different dog.

That is what happened in the 80's with the Barbet.
Many jumped on the bandwagon as even today!

The Barbet français still exists, but as I have said in French on the history website, many, percentagewise, not all, have Barbet blood in them. Some have not a drop.
The picture below speaks it all. I don't think I need to tell you who is who.

The one on the left has no poodle blood, but comes from a Griffon Boulet line. The other is poodle typed, but with some Barbet blood, and his descendants should produce both. He comes from a female who is Berger de la Crau typed. Complicated, yes, a bit, but fascinating.

Navigate on a few websites( clubs and private), look at the photos. See for yourself. Also, you will notice, that on some there is absolutely no link to a Barbet history website, whichever it may be.
All breeds have links to their history websites.
Thank Internet for the rest.

Vera de la perte aux loups envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 20/12/2008 @ 20:36

Vera de la perte aux loups a hérité des taches noires sur les pattes avant qui lui viennent du Braque d'Auvergne, Timballe des années 20.
Sa lignée a été tracée jusqu'à Médor et Timballe, années 20.
Un Braque d'Auvergne est un Braque d'Auvergne et n'a pratiquement pas changé depuis! Voici la photo de notre ami Timballe à Mr Le Houelleur, éleveur de barbets et juge SCC de Braquee d'Auvergne dans les années 20.

Des Barbets à Mr Le Houelleur avec les mêmes taches..années 30.

Le blanc sur le corps de Vera est exactement au même endroit que le chien Kino II en 1954, descendant de Kino du mas de la Chapelle, né le 19 septembre 1936, descendant des chiens Barbet de Mr Le Houelleur, affixe de Floirac.
Kino était le fils de Joyeuse du Mas de la Chapelle, hors Tango, un TI blanc et noir qui chassait très bien.Je vous en reparlerai!

L'héritage du barbet français est assez impressionnant et peu à peu dévoile toutes ses facettes et grâce à qui il/elle a été préservé?

Mr Georgii et Mme Pê oui, ma bonne dame.Et ça ne va pas plaire à toute celle qui clamait à tute tête que la dame de Tarascon n'avait que des bastards!C'est celui qui dit qui l'est?

Regardez bien le post dessous et comparez...

Il est interdit d'utiliser et de reproduire les photos des chiens de la famille Le Houelleur sur ce post sans l'autorisation écrite du webmaster et de la famille de mr le Houelleur.
It is strictly forbidden to copy or use any of the photos of the le Houelleur dogs on this post without the written authorisation of the webmaster and the Le Houelleur family.

Mamma number 2:Thelma envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 16/12/2008 @ 21:31

She cleaned Dalie's complete head and ears, by the way. That's my Thelma Lou. Didou-didou... Of course, Coccolina watched on.

L'histoire du Barbet devenu Barbet français envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 13/12/2008 @ 21:44
Voici la première, deuxième et troisième partie de l'histoire du Barbet/Caniche et son évolution pour devenir le Barbet Français.
Il n'y a pas de photos pour l'instant, mais une grande partie de ces tableaux et dessins, sont déjà sur les diverses sites du Barbet et du Caniche car pendant très longtemps on confondait les 2. Cette partie est assez banale car elle n'apporte pas grand' chose de nouveau.

Lorsque le Barbet/ Caniche devient un Barbet à part entière, l'histoire de ce chien merveilleux devient plus intéressante car elle nous concerne directement.
Il faut bien commencer quelque part; alors, voilà...

Je rajouterai bien humblement que je n'aurai pas pu assembler cette histoire du Barbet sans l'aide précieuse de Monsieur Philippe Séguéla,
qui m'a prêté de nombreux livres de sa collection personnelle d'une valeur inestimable sur le marché du livre ancien.

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