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A,B,C: Vieux Barbet Français

H: history
K: for George Orwell and the Old Barbet!
M: measure
S: standard
A: Authentic Barbet or Vieux Barbet Français
B: Barbet Moderne, son histoire depuis 1980
B: Breeding, studs and the likes!
B: blogs to keep up with
B:Bibliography and links
Barbet heads, eyes and noses?
Barbets and other water dogs...
Barbets en Bresse, France
Breeding rules: FCI
C: conversion table
C:Crossbreeding R Triquet
Color genetics
Diversité génétique d'une race rare
E: Education
F: FAULTS according to the standard
F:Facts and fallacies about the Barbet
G: Georgy spiritual father of the Barbet
G: Griffon Barbet
H: Health matters
H: Hipscore Dysplasia
H: history Barbet Moderne
Health reference websites: hips etc
I: Inbreeding
K: Kennel blindness
L: Lexicologie Barbet
L: letter from the President of the SCC as proof-preuve
L:LOF Barbets since the beginning
M: breeders' meeting 2009
P: Poodle History Project
P: Poodle history
P: Purest
P: poodle health registry
P:Pedigree databases updated 5/11
P:Photos to depict the standard
Psychological warfare or breed rape? 0411
R: Rare or nearly extinct breeds
Radio des hanches: ce qu'il faut faire avec la radio officielle 3/11
Rassemblement: Meeting Barbets 2012 French& English
S: Shopping!
S: Study of our pedigrees- Spanish Water Dog
S: study of our pedigrees - Poodles
S: study of our pedigrees- Portuguese water dogs
S:Selection grid/Grille de Sélection
old club site


Old Lines and new crosses

Barbet x Irish Water Spaniel
Barbet/ Irish Water Spaniel
Barbonus: line 4 fawn
Bloodline 1: Le Houelleur (de Floirac)
History, shepherds and Barbets
In French, on Pronatura: 3 bloodlines
Portuguese water dog and pedigree database
Spanish Water Dog line and pedigree database
Wycliffe and the Barbet modern: poodle database
bb x swd


Videos Galore

A pup of Colleen's in Scandinavia
B: Barbets live and in colors!
Caya and the ocean
Disco and Rocket
Eho Santiano in the Netherlands
Flashdance and her mirabelle de Savoie...
From Cressat, France
Le Barbet au CGA 2011
My 3 males together
Plum picker uppers!
Yatzie and my girls!


Working Barbets

Barbet de chasse: Malher
Bibiche di Barbochos de Reiau de Prouvenco
Booly Wooly
Crotté comme un Barbet: Lucrezia Borgia
Détails du BTE/BCE
Le travail à l'eau
My Barbets at work: a sampling
Mère et fils: duck duo!
Poppenspaler's Vincacao
Thelma de la perte aux loups
UK: Hunting training by Fiona Lucas
Un carnet de travail: pour obtenir le BCE



A Barbet Moderne cut: Molly Mae
Before and after: Thelma and Coccolina 2012
Grooming Tools
The Barboch cut with photos: a working cut


Toutes les nouvelles

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Fanny Forigoler de la serve de la chapelle d'Alexandre envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 02/10/2011 @ 09:15
She was present yesterday also, I believe that she got her BCE 1st or 2nd, but I am not sure which.I could not hear which it was and I was wanting to leave as soon as possible (3.5 hours to got home)

What I did also notice was how much she now looked like her aunt Arkanne( Coccolina's sister)
who was there yesterday, as usual, since this girl is THE visual representation and drive of a "working Barbet". I hope Fanny can do the same.

She got the CACS of the club specialty show this year and you can see a very nice photo of her on the link below.

Floirac Déjà Vue envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 02/10/2011 @ 09:04
BCE- 3rd category, so she will do better next time. She didn't understand that you didn't throw a duck in water for her to retrieve... which is what I had been training her to do. She saw her first live duck in a box yesterday and her first dead one which was laying on the box.

She smelt the feathers put on the ground...and
when I said get the duck, she ran over to get the one sitting on the box. She understood she had to work, but was too stressed by the day.

Lots of barking dogs,( which even scared people trying to take a walk around the pond and people cackling, yes cackling, very loudly), making it difficult to hear anything 20 meters down by the water.It was more like a garden party that a working dog trial.

The judge was probably the best one I had seen so far, reminding me of the style of Mr Raymond Ohl, a major figure in working dog trials. He passed on in 2008. He taught me a lot....and most of all respect the dogs and what they are doing.

Defects... envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 30/09/2011 @ 08:45

This is the same dog, poor thing...she comes from the Booly Wooly x Djazzy litter. I did telle them it would happen, but as you know they were not concerned with that aspect. Their job is not show how beautiful they are, but to perform a function taht they are good at:

My point is that after several generations, this could have been also worked out which is the role of a person responsible for and to a breed, to do. Not to focus on details like colors and withholding as much information as possible, but respecting a standard.
Helping people breed better dogs, not condemning them.


But then if you're not good at it, what's the point? We're getting nowhere fast.This is not a scoop, is it.

Look at Nouchka...she is in the pedigree and I am sure this has come out over and over and over. It seems it would be easy to correct, no?
It is a defect. It deforms a dog who is supposed to have a crochet at the end of the tail, not a crochet over the back.
Read pedigrees!They tell you all you need to know, when they are correct.

And then she said...and then I said... envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 30/09/2011 @ 08:20
Not such a long time ago, there was information eventually erased about not having to look at any names in a pedigree beyond 4 generations...
How can anyone say that when everyone knows you have to go back as far as possible! Get as much information about every dog in your pedigree that is available.
It is ( or should be) a very well known fact that some keep information to themselves and only give it out very sparingly as done yesterdya, for example! You must know that you have to deserve information before you can have it.That is how this person in charge of the breed at the club is helping us.
Would be interesting to see how much she has accomplished since she was put into place by other committee members, by getting people to vote a "certain way". Some of the committee members have been around long enough to know the tricks of the trade. Hey, politics is politics.

Since the elections, what has happened other than organizing 2 one-day events? Nada.

No CTE: breeding commission...we have none and since that ridiculous meeting in 2009? where we were read the standard for 2.5 hours, nada.

Breeder's Charter: nada. I was told it would be taken care of...but whatsit didn't say when. So what is left?

Telling people on the SCC ( another story) that the Barbet is a micmac of 5 water breeds is about the best done so far...making it a pure mix. Meaning none of the dogs should be registered in any Canine Club anywhere.
The modification in the stadard? no news..;oh yes, she wants to eliminate colors so the Barbet only has poodle type colors...before we had a problem with the dogs being humongous, now it will be another thing. One person to decide...not real democratic.I say.

Hey when all is said and done, go look at what madam has to say today.

Hey, ask madam, why she hasn't written the trus story of the Barbet moderne with facts, photos and details. She has them....all, in her pocket.

Champagne litter bubbles! envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 29/09/2011 @ 18:19

The answer from the bergère to madam bergère. envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 29/09/2011 @ 18:15
The white and black or white and brown in a litter back in the 80's 90's has Barbet blood in it. A result of Lynx being replaced by Ops and then the breeder putting another name on the pedigree...and so on and so forth....As I mentionned in the Barbet history I have just recently posted: "many pedigrees were falsified as M Hermans would have never accepted Barbet blood in his poodle mixes.

There has been Barbet blood in the Marécages du Prince since the T U or V litter as the dogs were also replaced on the pedigrees( thank our lucky stars). Au fil de l'eau...and so on. One would of course, have to see a photo of these dogs, but, they didn't have a poodle coat, nor did they look like one.I am sure.

Amazing what you can do with a tad bit of info. Right now, I don't have ime to get into it, but.

If we had some visual aids, rather thatn just words, it would make it easier. This is a photo of a dog for which I have no name but I am sure madam Bergère does.In the meantime, there is no poodle in this dog.The hope makes live, as we say in Frankreich.

Look at the muzzle on that dog. Not pointy. A nice square one!

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