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A: Authentic Barbet or Vieux Barbet Français
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B: Breeding, studs and the likes!
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Barbet heads, eyes and noses?
Barbets and other water dogs...
Barbets en Bresse, France
Breeding rules: FCI
C: COAT COLORS
C: conversion table
C:Crossbreeding R Triquet
Color genetics
Diversité génétique d'une race rare
E: Education
F: FAULTS according to the standard
F:Facts and fallacies about the Barbet
G: Georgy spiritual father of the Barbet
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H: Health matters
H: Hipscore Dysplasia
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Health reference websites: hips etc
I: Inbreeding
K: Kennel blindness
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L: Lexicologie Barbet
L: letter from the President of the SCC as proof-preuve
L:LOF Barbets since the beginning
M: breeders' meeting 2009
P: Poodle History Project
P: Poodle history
P: Purest
P: poodle health registry
P:Pedigree databases updated 5/11
P:Photos to depict the standard
Psychological warfare or breed rape? 0411
R: Rare or nearly extinct breeds
Radio des hanches: ce qu'il faut faire avec la radio officielle 3/11
Rassemblement: Meeting Barbets 2012 French& English
S: Shopping!
S: Study of our pedigrees- Spanish Water Dog
S: study of our pedigrees - Poodles
S: study of our pedigrees- Portuguese water dogs
S:Selection grid/Grille de Sélection
old club site

 



Old Lines and new crosses

Barbet x Irish Water Spaniel
Barbet/ Irish Water Spaniel
Barbonus: line 4 fawn
Bloodline 1: Le Houelleur (de Floirac)
History, shepherds and Barbets
In French, on Pronatura: 3 bloodlines
Portuguese water dog and pedigree database
Spanish Water Dog line and pedigree database
Wycliffe and the Barbet modern: poodle database
bb x swd

 



Videos Galore

A pup of Colleen's in Scandinavia
B: Barbets live and in colors!
Caya and the ocean
Disco and Rocket
Eho Santiano in the Netherlands
Flashdance and her mirabelle de Savoie...
From Cressat, France
Le Barbet au CGA 2011
My 3 males together
Plum picker uppers!
Yatzie and my girls!

 



Working Barbets

Barbet de chasse: Malher
Bibiche di Barbochos de Reiau de Prouvenco
Booly Wooly
Crotté comme un Barbet: Lucrezia Borgia
Détails du BTE/BCE
Le travail à l'eau
My Barbets at work: a sampling
Mère et fils: duck duo!
Poppenspaler's Vincacao
Thelma de la perte aux loups
UK: Hunting training by Fiona Lucas
Un carnet de travail: pour obtenir le BCE

 



Grooming/Toilettage

A Barbet Moderne cut: Molly Mae
Before and after: Thelma and Coccolina 2012
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The Barboch cut with photos: a working cut

 

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Statistiques for French Championship/ WDS envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 19/06/2011 @ 18:17
http://cedia.fr/
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Raising a litter is fun and easy... envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 19/06/2011 @ 09:10
...what is much less fun and a major hassel is dealing with all the people who know nothing about the breed itself...and there are more than we can possibly imagine.

Then, getting absolutely no support from governing instances, no names but you all know who I am talking about.

Also, the lack of respect for the standard and never mind the survival of a rustic old French breed......that used to be a working dog.

And finally, the whole crew of those sitting on their hands and who know nothing about the pedigrees.

You do not make money rare breed in France as one can only have ONE litter per year if one is not a professional breeder. If you work for its survival and all it entails( finding males for example)...it's going to cost you more than anything else to do good work.

There are not enough poeple helping each other to get anywhere.

Proof is easy to find. You all know I do not speak with forked tongue.
That costs me, too.Mucho.
Go look at a particular website. The results of the Specialty show (o yeh, what a show)are not even posted.
And if you are worried about this summer, well. So am I.

Yeh Yeh Yeh...barbet! envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 19/06/2011 @ 08:25

On the 15th day...they were beginning to understand.Yeh!

http://www.vieuxbarbetfrancais.com/

Genetics and bloodlines: another logical example envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 18/06/2011 @ 09:47
Here below another example. Notice how all the dogs are black..and black.

http://barbet.org/la%20lignee%20de%20gin.htm

http://www.barbet.org/genetique.htm

This is a very informative site. Many may or may not know,this lady was secretary of the club when it was just for Barbets. 20 years with president: the Re-incarnator of the breed.This explains that.

Anyone who has been breeding any breed for a long time is able to show the evolution of their line and selection as this person did. However she only had 1 litter, which as she says, does not qualify her as breeder, per say.


Addendum to 3 generations and add selection. envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 18/06/2011 @ 08:56
It was brought to my attention that in the post below the dogs have the same amount of Barbet blood. This point was also mentionned on a Dutch blog a couple of months ago. This is when selection comes in. You take a product and keep adding this or that to the dough and it eventually changes shape, color, texture and taste. No scoop her!

But, it all makes sense.

http://chiensdeau.free.fr/BarbetenBresse/articles.php?pg=art171

Then selecting to do something to modify a certain aspect of a breed, (not necessarily physical), or keep it. The French grid rewards selection for genetic purpuses.

The article is about the project to outcross the dalmatian with pointers to resolve a uric acid problem in the breed. It discusses the need to "back cross" to purebred dogs after outcrossing.
They selected on uric acid levels and appearance.


http://www.dalmatianheritage.com/about/Seltzer.htm


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1363354/Fiona-mongrel-spot-bother-Crufts-Impure-dalmatian-angers-traditionalists-elite-pedigree-dog-show.html#ixzz1FlsQ7X2M

Thanks T and Y for your help.

3 generations...of males vs 3 generations of females... envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 16/06/2011 @ 18:54

Tiboubou de la baie des Landes, son Booly Wooly aka Guyguy and grandson

Djimo.


TChin Tchin de la perte aux loups aka Thelma, daughter Bijou ( photo not great but shows how the mustache is straight and grows down)

and grand-daughter Floirac Déjà Vue.

The point here is, that F1 will produce half of one breed and half of another breed ( more or less). Depending on how the offsprongs are used F2 can be the same and of course F3. By then you have almost pure one or the other.

In one litter you can have line 1 of the Barbet, line 2, or 3 or in our case even Poodles(or whatever else went into the mix)if that is what your objective is.

That concept is hard for some to grasp. To understand it one would have to accept to photograph an entire litter side by side with the parents, and even the grand-parents. That is not often the case as the parents reside in different countries.

The link below is very easy to understand and this person really knows what he is talking about(from experience).An entire litter of F1 logically is not confirmed as TI to the breed one is trying to refresh.We know this, in our case, for the IWS confirmed in the Netherlands coming from a Barbet father. It can do the "other" breed good, too.Documented facts.

http://www.braquedubourbonnais.info/en/using-outcross.htm






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