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A,B,C: Vieux Barbet Français

H: history
K: for George Orwell and the Old Barbet!
M: measure
S: standard
A: Authentic Barbet or Vieux Barbet Français
B: Barbet Moderne, son histoire depuis 1980
B: Breeding, studs and the likes!
B: blogs to keep up with
B:Bibliography and links
Barbet heads, eyes and noses?
Barbets and other water dogs...
Barbets en Bresse, France
Breeding rules: FCI
C: conversion table
C:Crossbreeding R Triquet
Color genetics
Diversité génétique d'une race rare
E: Education
F: FAULTS according to the standard
F:Facts and fallacies about the Barbet
G: Georgy spiritual father of the Barbet
G: Griffon Barbet
H: Health matters
H: Hipscore Dysplasia
H: history Barbet Moderne
Health reference websites: hips etc
I: Inbreeding
K: Kennel blindness
L: Lexicologie Barbet
L: letter from the President of the SCC as proof-preuve
L:LOF Barbets since the beginning
M: breeders' meeting 2009
P: Poodle History Project
P: Poodle history
P: Purest
P: poodle health registry
P:Pedigree databases updated 5/11
P:Photos to depict the standard
Psychological warfare or breed rape? 0411
R: Rare or nearly extinct breeds
Radio des hanches: ce qu'il faut faire avec la radio officielle 3/11
Rassemblement: Meeting Barbets 2012 French& English
S: Shopping!
S: Study of our pedigrees- Spanish Water Dog
S: study of our pedigrees - Poodles
S: study of our pedigrees- Portuguese water dogs
S:Selection grid/Grille de Sélection
old club site


Old Lines and new crosses

Barbet x Irish Water Spaniel
Barbet/ Irish Water Spaniel
Barbonus: line 4 fawn
Bloodline 1: Le Houelleur (de Floirac)
History, shepherds and Barbets
In French, on Pronatura: 3 bloodlines
Portuguese water dog and pedigree database
Spanish Water Dog line and pedigree database
Wycliffe and the Barbet modern: poodle database
bb x swd


Videos Galore

A pup of Colleen's in Scandinavia
B: Barbets live and in colors!
Caya and the ocean
Disco and Rocket
Eho Santiano in the Netherlands
Flashdance and her mirabelle de Savoie...
From Cressat, France
Le Barbet au CGA 2011
My 3 males together
Plum picker uppers!
Yatzie and my girls!


Working Barbets

Barbet de chasse: Malher
Bibiche di Barbochos de Reiau de Prouvenco
Booly Wooly
Crotté comme un Barbet: Lucrezia Borgia
Détails du BTE/BCE
Le travail à l'eau
My Barbets at work: a sampling
Mère et fils: duck duo!
Poppenspaler's Vincacao
Thelma de la perte aux loups
UK: Hunting training by Fiona Lucas
Un carnet de travail: pour obtenir le BCE



A Barbet Moderne cut: Molly Mae
Before and after: Thelma and Coccolina 2012
Grooming Tools
The Barboch cut with photos: a working cut


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You're still the one... envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 03/03/2012 @ 09:23

Barbet Booly Wooly, almost 6, was the first male I had ever had in my entire life. I kept him because in that litter there were no brown females. Why him? I don't know. But, boy am I happy I made that decision. Characterwise, he is incredible. He knows he is a bit of a favorite and does take advantage of it. I can't hold it against him and also the fact that he has produced some magnificent pups with great coats who inherited his character, will to work and overall kindness.

My Guyguy.

He is French Champion( despite his tail "problem"!)
Retrieved at 9 weeks, got his TAN early on and BCE 1st category in 2011.

Grooming Thelma and Coccolina envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 02/03/2012 @ 15:29
French, Compay and Froguette...

Whilst I have your attention.. envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 29/02/2012 @ 19:23
If anyone knows of another crossing where the Bouvier de Flandres was used to bring new blood to the Barbet, I'd appreciate knowing it. And for those of you who have been around for a while, yes, I was told that the Bouvier people had used a Barbet back in the 50's? , but I was never able to get the proof.Apparently, real hushush.

Come together right now: over me envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 29/02/2012 @ 15:57

Billabong du Pré de Rédy, has now officially been confirmed in France. The judge having said there's "Bouvier" in that dog.And yes, in the name of genetic diversity, he was confirmed and ought to bring us some much needed wider heads and strength around the chest line, as Compay has.
What better place to start a career?! A nice throwback from Médor.

Billabong is the brother of Bango, who inherited from the poodle side of the family.Hard to believe they're brothers, isn't it!

Bravo Billabong. A hips! He's ready to rock'n roll!

If you have a few minutes...have a read! envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 29/02/2012 @ 08:26

Rather than thinking you have to go to all different websites to get fresh info, put this one in your favorites! Tomasz Targowski, Wiercilapa kennels,
has taken over from where I left off a while back. I have too much research going on, which makes it difficult to keep up with births and the likes, happening all over the Barbet world...and I am happy about it! It's just too much pressure to continue doing what I did for 5 years on the net!

I would add that I am sorry that I have not announced some of your I used to, but with Tomasz, you're in good hands!

Interesting article and divine book: 2 for one!? envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 26/02/2012 @ 10:16
A strong breed club, a lot of transparency, cooperation, and some kind of breeding plan done in order to dilute around 80% of Poodle x PWD combinations, a drop of SWD and IWS would certainly help the breed's survival.There's obviously nothing necessarily wrong with crossing for a reason as most do and have done! But, when the crossings have been done to eradicate the original breed and there is only 20% or so of Barbet blood left and some lines not having any, that's when things are "dangerous".

As Mrs Jeancourt-Galignani, says in her book about Poodle breeding…
The objective of a club is to develop a breed,
To unite breeders and fanciers,
To give them advice on choosing a stud, logical breeding, hygiene and food.
To inform members on upcoming litters,
To teach judges to read the standard properly,
To promote the breed
To defend it
To offer rewards, and encourage the activities around the breed and to inform members of the club on their work for the members and the breed it represents.
This lady was president of the French Poodle club for around 30 years. She was a breeder, produced many champions. She travelled the world defending the standard, by dotting the I’s and crossing the t’s. From 10 members it very quickly grew to several hundred by 1952 (700)
She did impose her views and knowledge and was a very highly respected reference of the breed.

“ A dog with a good head type can be ill and the head will never change despite his outer aspect changing due to illness”. She was precise about the head and the tail.

She refers to Italian Pr Solaro as to proportions mentioning that a square dog is not acceptable in the poodle. H = 10 L = 11.
“It has wisely been said that a poodle is not square, it must be longer than taller, and not oh horror! as I have often seen (especially with the white ones)fitting the shape of an upside down rectangle, meaning a dog taller (lots of air between the legs)with a short body. Some judges, too easily influenced, have given an “excellent” to dogs with falling haunches. These dogs do merit the love and affection of their owners, but have nothing to do in a showring, and even less being used to reproduce.”

“In 1934 and 1938 some very tall white poodles had reached eccentric proportions that had nothing to do with the ones mentioned in the standard. Breeders in France and in the UK or Germany were trying to improve the length of the ears, so it was said: how did they manage to obtain the result, and with which breed’s blood?: as it stood some dogs appeared bearing an irrational lengthening of their legs or rear legs ( tibia,shank) along with the front legs (radius, cubitus) to an exaggerated length, with regards to those of the femur and the humerus.”
“The selection on the coat of the breed is towards a uniforme color although the original strains were of bi-colored BARBETS.
“ The poodle has a light, bouncy gait, not at all long strides.”

There was more and more demand that French breeders could not honor and a new type intensive commerce was born : imported types, bred anywhere and with no logical reasoning and with creative pedigrees that made some shudder. In this dog world, breeding must be closely watched over and the best subjects must be used for breeding. As far as dogs of bad strains, they were promoted as "hilarious stars", a bit riduculous and called zazous. A new type of creative grooming covered the faults of the dog. It hid the structure and the type of the dog. Does the dog have bad ears, it gives him the look of a terrier, or why not amplify its face by a prehistorical type beard…”

“This was a disaster for the Club and the Club’s responsabilty is to fight this and make the owners of such subjects aware of this issue.”

“In 1945, 2 chic ladies with each one a dog at the end of a leash, they dogs had the same silhouette to the point that they congratulated each other on how nice the same grooming of their dogs was.One was a male, the other a female, both white and the same size: the female was in heat and the mating was allowed. At that particular moment, I passed them in the street. I told the one woman she had a poodle and the other was a rough coated terrier; they both snickered at my comment, both dogs having the same silhouette and praising the groomer who had managed to make of 2 different breeds, the same silhouette that they appeared to be of the same breed, which neither woman could name. These are some of the catastrophic results of the wave to commercially exploit a breed as it will be proven in the “grooming “ chapter.”

Written by Ms Jeancourt-Galignani, in Les Caniches et leur Elevage. P 17 and some others.
Now imagine that coming out of my mouth ?? Thank our lucky stars, but all of the above? Well…no names, but.
Page 17 of the book is posted and on FB under Barbet France, as it is sooooooo true that some could think I made it up!


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Studs/ Etalons

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