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A,B,C: Vieux Barbet Français

H: history
K: for George Orwell and the Old Barbet!
M: measure
S: standard
A: Authentic Barbet or Vieux Barbet Français
B: Barbet Moderne, son histoire depuis 1980
B: Breeding, studs and the likes!
B: blogs to keep up with
B:Bibliography and links
Barbet heads, eyes and noses?
Barbets and other water dogs...
Barbets en Bresse, France
Breeding rules: FCI
C: conversion table
C:Crossbreeding R Triquet
Color genetics
Diversité génétique d'une race rare
E: Education
F: FAULTS according to the standard
F:Facts and fallacies about the Barbet
G: Georgy spiritual father of the Barbet
G: Griffon Barbet
H: Health matters
H: Hipscore Dysplasia
H: history Barbet Moderne
Health reference websites: hips etc
I: Inbreeding
K: Kennel blindness
L: Lexicologie Barbet
L: letter from the President of the SCC as proof-preuve
L:LOF Barbets since the beginning
M: breeders' meeting 2009
P: Poodle History Project
P: Poodle history
P: Purest
P: poodle health registry
P:Pedigree databases updated 5/11
P:Photos to depict the standard
Psychological warfare or breed rape? 0411
R: Rare or nearly extinct breeds
Radio des hanches: ce qu'il faut faire avec la radio officielle 3/11
Rassemblement: Meeting Barbets 2012 French& English
S: Shopping!
S: Study of our pedigrees- Spanish Water Dog
S: study of our pedigrees - Poodles
S: study of our pedigrees- Portuguese water dogs
S:Selection grid/Grille de Sélection
old club site


Old Lines and new crosses

Barbet x Irish Water Spaniel
Barbet/ Irish Water Spaniel
Barbonus: line 4 fawn
Bloodline 1: Le Houelleur (de Floirac)
History, shepherds and Barbets
In French, on Pronatura: 3 bloodlines
Portuguese water dog and pedigree database
Spanish Water Dog line and pedigree database
Wycliffe and the Barbet modern: poodle database
bb x swd


Videos Galore

A pup of Colleen's in Scandinavia
B: Barbets live and in colors!
Caya and the ocean
Disco and Rocket
Eho Santiano in the Netherlands
Flashdance and her mirabelle de Savoie...
From Cressat, France
Le Barbet au CGA 2011
My 3 males together
Plum picker uppers!
Yatzie and my girls!


Working Barbets

Barbet de chasse: Malher
Bibiche di Barbochos de Reiau de Prouvenco
Booly Wooly
Crotté comme un Barbet: Lucrezia Borgia
Détails du BTE/BCE
Le travail à l'eau
My Barbets at work: a sampling
Mère et fils: duck duo!
Poppenspaler's Vincacao
Thelma de la perte aux loups
UK: Hunting training by Fiona Lucas
Un carnet de travail: pour obtenir le BCE



A Barbet Moderne cut: Molly Mae
Before and after: Thelma and Coccolina 2012
Grooming Tools
The Barboch cut with photos: a working cut


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Into browns: Murphy's envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 06/01/2011 @ 18:27

Those eyes...I've seen them before!
Mom: Bibiche Barbochos Reiau de Prouvenco x dad: Piero della Franceska.
Photo: Stacy's talent!

A Britisher's year in review envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 05/01/2011 @ 06:00
Novaforesta Dora aka Bonnie, daughter of Caya and Bepop, who is like one of my Barbets since she grew up with my dogs before leaving for the UK. Of course it's very important to see what my dogs "throw" when they mate!And of course be able to follow them.
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Novaforesta Dora aka Bonnie, daughter of Caya and Bepop, who is like one of my Barbets since she grew up with my dogs before leaving for the UK. Of course it's very important to see what my dogs "throw" when they mate!And of course be able to follow them.

3 real beauties..Frankly Scarlet, Fanny and Tug: compare envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 03/01/2011 @ 08:19

Curly or less curly, these 2 are not the same age and the coat will evolve until 2 to 3 years of age. What is important here to be aware of: the female is slightly smaller than the male. The conformation is the same. 55 cms is nearly a perfect size for a male...which is what "previous" standards stated as the size for a Barbet!
If and when the standard is again modified in 2011, not many have been told about it. Not many, meaning that some other than decision makers are certainly aware.Most of us breeders are not. We were not consulted...

Frankly Scarlet, RUSTIC...daughter of Coccolina and Booly Wooly.
Height: 21 inches / 53.3 cm
Weight: 53.5 pounds / 24.3 kg

In the ring they are as magnificent as out of the ring. The look and character of the Barbet, historically, and what I am working with some others to perpetrate. An easy care, non nonsense rustic dog, for everyone! That is what the Barbet is and must remain. A RUSTIC breed...

Fanny Forigoler, Frankly's sister in France
Height:54 cm
Weight: 24.4 kg

Both of these Barbets are daughters of Booly Wooly and Coccolina. They represent my idea of what a Barbet should look like.

Biscay Tolouse, RUSTIC.
height 56 cm / 22 inches
weight 22.589 kg / 47.6 lb
coat in photo 10.16 cm / 4 +/- inches *

This is Biscay's Tolouse( from Paula Ballak). Winner at a Canadian dog show with real competition. 8 other dogs presented. From day one I have always said he was magnificent. Descendant of a poodley looking type and a more Barbet type( with Barbet blood). The coat is as close to perfect as perfect can be. Nice RUSTIC a Barbet should have and be shown with.
At some point in time and for the survival of a breed that is called a "natural breed"( more on that coming up), we have to show dogs that look like what they're supposed to and not pretty dogs who win shows and get ribbons to claim championship. That is not always compatible? or is it..

This dog does not look like any version of a poodle,or a Spanish water dog type ( the coat is slightly silky = meaning easy to groom) doesn't not look like an overgroomed Chow Chow type that you need to PHD in grooming skills to keep up (or be without a job, or retired with nothing to do).

Tolouse aka Tug, has perfect proportions, nice angulations,nice ears, no long legs,a nice long tail that doesn't curl over his rear; it is not held by someone for the photo( that makes me scream),a perfect straight back, a nice strong size head that is not thin like a poodle's. He looks strong as a RUSTIC dog should and is an honor to the breed. What is under his coat is visible= strength and not hidden under 10 cms a chow chow coat. What you see is what you get!

His gait is not skippy as some of the poodle types. He is solid and shows it. He is still yound but can only get better. Forgot his natural stack, as they say! How they just stand perfect.

Those are just my thoughts, for what they're worth.Judges don't write comments in Canada as they do in European countries, but if I were a judge which I think I am competent enough but will never become a judge (because there are too many dogs I would throw out of the ring), by now, that's what I would write.*
Bravo Tug and Tracey.

Rustic is a key word when describing the Barbet. Used 9 times to remind breeders at a barbet meeting in 2009. Will this word come back into the standard in 2011? or?

For those of you following what I'm doing and have been for the last few years, the Brown line is taking shape. I'm looking for dogs that can fit in( not ballerina toes, nice round strong feet). Please send the photos to me, I'd appreciate it.

The sand color envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 02/01/2011 @ 20:27
I don't got an answer...from Finland (where I had forgotten another sand colored pup from Nelum Himalis Belle...)

If anyone competent can help?

It would be nice to have that kind of help for the Barbet, meaning having a reference who could help us with matings to get certain colors .... back.
Getting some of the "old" colors back that would really add proof to the fact that the Barbet is( and always has been) a "natural breed" that evolved through history and is by no stretch of the imagination, a breed of black dogs.

And yes, time would be better spent doing that than some other less important "things.

Of coats and colors... envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 02/01/2011 @ 10:45
The Barbet being a "natural breed", it is quite obvious that many diverse coat colors will, can and must come out. When the population is only black or brown, that would mean that any of the remains of the "natural" breed have been eliminated.

It is vital for the survival of the breed that those dogs be selected to produce those colors...

FYI: reasearch and researchers envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 02/01/2011 @ 10:27
Dr Pascale Quignon is the lady I have been communicating with at the University of Rennes, as far as the reasearch on epilepsy is concerned.

After all that has been said and done, it does turn out that in France very few samples: 3 ( très peu) of epileptic dogs have been sent for research.
They have neardly 100 samples of which 20 will be taken out to be a part of a wider study this month.

I did ask her at some point if the Portuguese Water dog or the Poodle had tests for epilepsy and they don't. I was quite taken aback by this information, because there is such a wide population of the 2 breeds! My thought was that they could run the poodle test or the PWD test on the Barbet ( because in the "Barbet" population there are some who could fit into those tests...). It was looked into but as i said, it does not exist.


When you look at some of her publications, it gives you the level of her competences! And the variety of research.
It also appears that soon, breeds that went into a dog will be shown in her publication ( or joint publications).[auth]

On another topic...
As far as colors is concerned:
I was wondering if anyone out there could tell me/us if both male and female have to carry the sand gene for there to be sand colored pups in a litter.
Compay has produced a sand pup, so has Caravaggio along with Ulysse 5 all 3 in Finland).
Then, there are been some sand poodles who have contributed ( HAUT PAQUIS kennel name, for example).

Can anyone answer?
Thanks in advance.
Paula, you're going to love them articles!!

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Studs/ Etalons

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