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Vieux Barbet News







A,B,C: Vieux Barbet Français

H: history
K: for George Orwell and the Old Barbet!
M: measure
S: standard
A: Authentic Barbet or Vieux Barbet Français
B: Barbet Moderne, son histoire depuis 1980
B: Breeding, studs and the likes!
B: blogs to keep up with
B:Bibliography and links
Barbet heads, eyes and noses?
Barbets and other water dogs...
Barbets en Bresse, France
Breeding rules: FCI
C: conversion table
C:Crossbreeding R Triquet
Color genetics
Diversité génétique d'une race rare
E: Education
F: FAULTS according to the standard
F:Facts and fallacies about the Barbet
G: Georgy spiritual father of the Barbet
G: Griffon Barbet
H: Health matters
H: Hipscore Dysplasia
H: history Barbet Moderne
Health reference websites: hips etc
I: Inbreeding
K: Kennel blindness
L: Lexicologie Barbet
L: letter from the President of the SCC as proof-preuve
L:LOF Barbets since the beginning
M: breeders' meeting 2009
P: Poodle History Project
P: Poodle history
P: Purest
P: poodle health registry
P:Pedigree databases updated 5/11
P:Photos to depict the standard
Psychological warfare or breed rape? 0411
R: Rare or nearly extinct breeds
Radio des hanches: ce qu'il faut faire avec la radio officielle 3/11
Rassemblement: Meeting Barbets 2012 French& English
S: Shopping!
S: Study of our pedigrees- Spanish Water Dog
S: study of our pedigrees - Poodles
S: study of our pedigrees- Portuguese water dogs
S:Selection grid/Grille de Sélection
old club site


Old Lines and new crosses

Barbet x Irish Water Spaniel
Barbet/ Irish Water Spaniel
Barbonus: line 4 fawn
Bloodline 1: Le Houelleur (de Floirac)
History, shepherds and Barbets
In French, on Pronatura: 3 bloodlines
Portuguese water dog and pedigree database
Spanish Water Dog line and pedigree database
Wycliffe and the Barbet modern: poodle database
bb x swd


Videos Galore

A pup of Colleen's in Scandinavia
B: Barbets live and in colors!
Caya and the ocean
Disco and Rocket
Eho Santiano in the Netherlands
Flashdance and her mirabelle de Savoie...
From Cressat, France
Le Barbet au CGA 2011
My 3 males together
Plum picker uppers!
Yatzie and my girls!


Working Barbets

Barbet de chasse: Malher
Bibiche di Barbochos de Reiau de Prouvenco
Booly Wooly
Crotté comme un Barbet: Lucrezia Borgia
Détails du BTE/BCE
Le travail à l'eau
My Barbets at work: a sampling
Mère et fils: duck duo!
Poppenspaler's Vincacao
Thelma de la perte aux loups
UK: Hunting training by Fiona Lucas
Un carnet de travail: pour obtenir le BCE



A Barbet Moderne cut: Molly Mae
Before and after: Thelma and Coccolina 2012
Grooming Tools
The Barboch cut with photos: a working cut


Toutes les nouvelles

Poster une nouvelle


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Do not use as a reference for obedience! envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 09/06/2009 @ 09:40
This is a Portuguese water dog, and yes there are similarities but not for obedience.

You'll also see the dog bowl again...

Practical application exercise for the previous one envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 07/06/2009 @ 07:56

You will see that this dog, Gloria du Partage des eaux, which I also owned for 2 days before she was put down, does not in any way shape or form go back to anything past 1980.

Don't forget to start at 9 generations, and go progressively back to wherever it statrs saying something.

(It starts with mutts at 6.)

Try this on for size! envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 06/06/2009 @ 20:03
My molly mae de l’étang de fontmerle.

Take the pedigrees and the different names and keep going back each time as far as you can.
It’s tideous, but real interesting. Don’t forget to then also connect to the poodle pedigree website.

Check out these dogs as far back as you can go.
poodle Bruss du haut paquis
poodle Baron de l’ame du prince des hortillons = vom phantasialand black charlie, poodle x de l’ame du prince des hortillons udith, poodle)
vom phantasialand black charlie = apiele times square, poodle x von der gibichburg jule, poodle
apiele times square, poodle = gervais tabu, poodle x apiele leila, poodle
gervais tabu = apiele lustig of gervais, poodle x stylistic’s emerald of juel, poodle
von der gibichburg jule, poodle = von der gibichburg donar, poodle x vom uetz kolme, poodle

von der gibichburg donar, poodle = Wycliffe timoteo ( t series) x von der gibichburg burga, poodle
vom uetz kolme, poodle = jo-ki black game of chance, poodle x vom gibichentstein ada, poodle

jo-ki black game of chance (5 generation back) = Wycliffe....x Vulcan

Flibuste: (ATI) ½ poodle ½ mutt
Ulyssia: from 2 mutts
Baron: from a long line of poodles as shown, taht go back to Wycliffe and Vulcan. Which are reknown poodle breeders.

H’alix = ½ poodle ½ PWD

bedouine des princes de l’étang, issue from 2 mutts
blacky, ATI poodle.

Wycliffe T series ( 1959 ) Timothy 5- generation pedigree to Blackkeen Duke 1937, and you can again go back 5 generations.

Take Blakeen duke and go back for example to Whippendell Drapeau and you are in 1920.

Off Google:

Eng books '48-'65 etc.

Whippendell--Millie Brunker (bought first Poodle in 1896). "To the Gentlewoman who Loves her Dog," The Gentlewoman, 28 February 1914, pp. 278(?)-279. ... - Pages similaires

Photo of Whippendell kennels.

Then take for example goldi locks and go back 5 generations
The Ebony king , go back as far as you can

You get to Mouton number one

We now could be in the 1880’s or so. That Barbet back then which could have been for some versions called a "chien mouton"...was probably when the real poodle goes back to and the Barbet (standard 1891) went to being a Griffon.

Have a look at this article, Bel Thor is a name I saw in one of the "Barbet" ancestors along with Dassin. Look at the dates.

Conclusion: if one can trace back 120 years of poodles that some descendants got eventually called barbets,( we don't know how)..why can’t we have traced back 90 years of Barbets with photos and official SCC pedigrees? It's all up to how people interpret the info they don't have.

Enjoy! It's fun because you will see black as a dominant color and some health info and lots of great names.
Remember that all calculations have a % of mistakes of +/- 10%, some in there are likely descendants of some Barbet blood, but not many.

Boogie Woogie Bugle Babes of company P...! envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 06/06/2009 @ 07:01

Bravo Amy for the photos...a star is born?All above are sons and daughters of Asta and Cinna

No promo for Obama's dog...but for the bowl! envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 05/06/2009 @ 21:09

...from our correspondant in the Netherlands!

Long live the... what? envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 04/06/2009 @ 10:00
Some of you may have seen this page on my other website, I now have it in my hands.

For Thursday morning humour:2nd degree...guess which one the Barbet is?!

No, it is not the one in the middle. Nor is it the one on the left. However the one on the left was used to redip on the poodle which is the one in the.......middle.
So that leaves you with the one on the right. Number 3.

At the bottom of the page it says:

9th international dog show, organized in Brussels, by the Société Royale St Hubert. I would deduce quite simply that there are a lot of other documents where that came from in Belgium, circa 1890 and that there were enough to write a stadard in 1891.
Anyone know anyone who can do some kind of research...? Maybe it has already been done?

If not done soon we are going to be eaten up alive, chewed up and spit out by "oodles of doodles"...mark my words.

Help save the old Barbet bloodlines! The Barbet: a French National Treasure.

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