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Vieux Barbet News







A,B,C: Vieux Barbet Français

H: history
K: for George Orwell and the Old Barbet!
M: measure
S: standard
A: Authentic Barbet or Vieux Barbet Français
B: Barbet Moderne, son histoire depuis 1980
B: Breeding, studs and the likes!
B: blogs to keep up with
B:Bibliography and links
Barbet heads, eyes and noses?
Barbets and other water dogs...
Barbets en Bresse, France
Breeding rules: FCI
C: conversion table
C:Crossbreeding R Triquet
Color genetics
Diversité génétique d'une race rare
E: Education
F: FAULTS according to the standard
F:Facts and fallacies about the Barbet
G: Georgy spiritual father of the Barbet
G: Griffon Barbet
H: Health matters
H: Hipscore Dysplasia
H: history Barbet Moderne
Health reference websites: hips etc
I: Inbreeding
K: Kennel blindness
L: Lexicologie Barbet
L: letter from the President of the SCC as proof-preuve
L:LOF Barbets since the beginning
M: breeders' meeting 2009
P: Poodle History Project
P: Poodle history
P: Purest
P: poodle health registry
P:Pedigree databases updated 5/11
P:Photos to depict the standard
Psychological warfare or breed rape? 0411
R: Rare or nearly extinct breeds
Radio des hanches: ce qu'il faut faire avec la radio officielle 3/11
Rassemblement: Meeting Barbets 2012 French& English
S: Shopping!
S: Study of our pedigrees- Spanish Water Dog
S: study of our pedigrees - Poodles
S: study of our pedigrees- Portuguese water dogs
S:Selection grid/Grille de Sélection
old club site


Old Lines and new crosses

Barbet x Irish Water Spaniel
Barbet/ Irish Water Spaniel
Barbonus: line 4 fawn
Bloodline 1: Le Houelleur (de Floirac)
History, shepherds and Barbets
In French, on Pronatura: 3 bloodlines
Portuguese water dog and pedigree database
Spanish Water Dog line and pedigree database
Wycliffe and the Barbet modern: poodle database
bb x swd


Videos Galore

A pup of Colleen's in Scandinavia
B: Barbets live and in colors!
Caya and the ocean
Disco and Rocket
Eho Santiano in the Netherlands
Flashdance and her mirabelle de Savoie...
From Cressat, France
Le Barbet au CGA 2011
My 3 males together
Plum picker uppers!
Yatzie and my girls!


Working Barbets

Barbet de chasse: Malher
Bibiche di Barbochos de Reiau de Prouvenco
Booly Wooly
Crotté comme un Barbet: Lucrezia Borgia
Détails du BTE/BCE
Le travail à l'eau
My Barbets at work: a sampling
Mère et fils: duck duo!
Poppenspaler's Vincacao
Thelma de la perte aux loups
UK: Hunting training by Fiona Lucas
Un carnet de travail: pour obtenir le BCE



A Barbet Moderne cut: Molly Mae
Before and after: Thelma and Coccolina 2012
Grooming Tools
The Barboch cut with photos: a working cut


Toutes les nouvelles

Poster une nouvelle


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Barbet honored as service dogs. envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 20/03/2011 @ 06:04
Thank you Tracey and Tug.

Happy birthday, Bepop- a -lula, Boone and bros and sisters! envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 19/03/2011 @ 09:05

This is Bepop on the left and Booly Wooly next to her. Time flies! He is going to be 5, magic age, in a month. Bepop spent about 10 months with me. I was helping out for the UK to get their first Barbets....imported.

Jennifer is the memoire vive of everything as her eyes are like hawk-eyes. She remembers evrything!

When I look back, sometimes I tell myself not to do it too often, despite the fact that the past forges the future.

Happy Birthday my Lula. Boone, Bohème, and the others!

Very good news from the French Poodle Club... envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 19/03/2011 @ 08:42
...and If they say so...then, hurray!!!!!!!!!! At least THEY are taking a stand on what the Barbet and the Poodle look like. Their conclusions, below.

In the latest French SCC canine review, there is an article written by the President of the French Poodle Club, about the Poodle.

The Poodle Club President is on the left, under the arrow.
He has judged our dogs several times over the last years. Recently, he was in Finland and judged Deetha Déjà Vue, and liked her very much.

The Poodle is a French dog like the Barbet.
They both have a French standard.
We can conclude they are both French dogs with French standards.

The column on the left says, " As time went by, the Barbet and the Poodle went their own way, being separated and selected to obtain 2 different fixed breeds. At the time, the Poodle breeders...."etc

Here, the same language is being used about the Barbet, as the language I have used to talk about the 2 breeds.
We agree that they are 2 different selected, fixed, breeds.

Key words: separation of breeds, selected, fixed.

The third point below shows the Mahler print of 2 Barbets, who were called Griffon Barbets. They do not look like poodles as the selection was finished and they no longer looked like Poodles and they had their own standard. This standard was written in 1891.
On the right, there is a corded Poodle.( Chasse et Pêche,January 1884.)
The selecting was finished for both breeds.

The Poodle today looks exactly as it did in 1884 and some Barbet still look exactly as they did in 1891.

Conclusion:A Poodle and a Barbet do NOT look alike.

They are different breeds. At the Concours General Agricole, it was shown and prouved that they were different breeds. The President of the SCC and the Poodle club President, standing in the same place at the same time on the same day saw that a Barbet did not, by any stretch of the imagination, look like a refined sophisticated Poodle.
For those of you following my news,you will remember Compay II's outing to get his rustic fur ready for the show, by a dip in a pond the day before!
We certainly are far from some of the dogs in some show rings who may have never seen a pond in their lives, huh.

I got through all this without ever mentionning the coat.
Despite all that, it is specified that the Poodle has an abundant thick curly fur excellent for the different Poodle grooming types...
"Fourrure abondante et frisée qui se prête à différents toilettages."
The Barbet is a rustic dog that does not require grooming.

Taking grooming to a higher height. envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 18/03/2011 @ 19:37
At the same Purina show in Canada, I saw a dog with a most unusual tail.
Something one had seen before, because à la mode is "an eternel re-beginning".La mode est un éternel recommencement.....I am well placed to know. Je suis bien placée pour le savoir.

Now you are not going to believe me, but I know you will, because I do not speak with forked tongue:

A Poodle in 1929. the black one. We'll talk about the white one soon.
Don't want to mix the "genres".

A new style of tail was shown on a dog in the Barbet ring.Oh my.I'm sorry , I can't show you the photo. It is well worth the detour.Michelin guide ***. Ok, **** if you insist.

Taking grooming to a higher height. What next.
I guess if some moron tried to tell many who belived him, that the Barbet was groomed like a diminutive poodle, why can't another one try to show us a Barbet with a bichon body and a 1929 poodle tail. Worth a try, no? Anything to gain fame?

Eron noir de saute ruisseaux envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 18/03/2011 @ 19:06
Je ne fais pas la promotion du Barbet modern. Cependant,
quelqu'un cherchait ce chien sur mon site . Si vous avez des infos sur ce chien, pourriez vous m'en faire part. Etant un barbet "modern" il y a très peu de données pour le "public".

Concours General Agricole 2011 envoyé par Elaine Fichter le 16/03/2011 @ 18:57
We're there on the left. Thelma, Corisande, and Compay II. Yes, I am proud, regardless of it beeing an easy win. I knew the Braque would get it, seeing that judges look for homogeneity in breeding. Their spots were even in the same place!

We weren't there to win, but to be seen, properly.

The Pont Audemers: also very few births,exact same problems as we have( people problems, too). Plus there are supposed to be 3 dogs shown for homogeneity and the 2 didn't look alike. We had a long conversation (very open and honest) about the Pont Audemer and the Barbet and at the end of the day...we thanked each other and went our merry ways.

Just for fun, if you look behind me, you will see the Pdt of the SCC and in the middle: Dr Chaudieu, who is the man who examined our dogs' eyes in 2005 in St Gervais d'Auvergne. He congratulated me on the "rusticity and looks" of my dogs.I even heard him telling the other 2 how nice looking my dogs were. Mr Arthus scrutinized them....that was worth the week's lobbying and put us on the map. Somewhere...!They also all have my "history of the Vieux Barbet".

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